Stuff from Village Pump == Multiple edits == : I know one reason I do a bit of this when working on large existing articles is that on several occasions I've lost ~15 minutes worth of work because I somehow accidentally hit some key that emptied the entire edit area, with no way (that I've found) to recover. So I tend to do more saves because of that. No doubt people will say that I should copy the whole article into an editor and edit there, doing interim saves on my local machine, and in principle they are right, but alas the editor I use (Epsilon) is bad at dealing with run-on paragaphs, so it's really painful to do that (have to convert when moving text to and fro). User:Jnc 19:11, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC) ::On W32-systems Ctrl-Z does an undo in the edit window for IE and Mozillas. -- User:Tillwe 10:51, Aug 22, 2003 (UTC) ::I guess Noel is not using a very up-to-date machine. Every newer OS has a notebook-like program which is better then Epsilon, I believe. --User:Wshun 03:04, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC) :: Thanks for the tip on ^Z. Actually, I'm using a fairly up-to-date machine (a 1.3Ghz Celeron), but I have zero interest in any "notebook-like program". I've been using Emacs and Emacs clones since the late 70's, and there's no way I'm switching to a different editing command set. I stick with Epsilon, instead of going to Emacs, since when I first moved to PC's, Emacs wasn't available for PC's, and by now I have a very customized Epsilon environment (several K lines of EEL code) which I have no interest in re-writing in LISP for a different editor (and anyway I hate LISP). If it ain't broke, don't fix it, is my motto these days; I don't have the neurons to spare to learn new stuff gratuitously. Now, what I ought to do is write an Epsilon mode for Wikipedia pages.. :-) User:Jnc 07:42, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC) :: For anyone who's insane enough to want such a thing, you may find one [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tmp/wiki.e here]. It takes a region, internally Wikifies it, and copies the result to the clipboard, ready to paste into the edit window. Note: it doesn't handle lists or headers followed immediately by text properly (yet), just blocks of straight text. User:Jnc 00:57, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC) ::: So you solve the problem by customize your Epsilon again! Woo! :P -User:Wshun 01:13, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC) ::: Sure!!! Hey, it's really easy to customize Epsilon! (Darned if I can figure out why I didn't think of doing that sooner... :-) Take a look at that routine above - it's a page of simple C that I whipped up in less than an hour. (LISP is for AI showoffs! :-) Just for grins, I've now fixed it so it handles titles and list elements too (as long as there's no whitespace on the end or start of line, respectively) - that took precisely 2.5 extra lines of code! User:Jnc 18:43, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)
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Stuff from Village Pump == Multiple edits == : I know one reason I do a bit of this when working on large existing articles is that on several occasions I've lost ~15 minutes worth of work because I somehow accidentally hit some key that emptied the entire edit area, with no way (that I've found) to recover. So I tend to do more saves because of that. No doubt people will say that I should copy the whole article into an editor and edit there, doing interim saves on my local machine, and in principle they are right, but alas the editor I use (Epsilon) is bad at dealing with run-on paragaphs, so it's really painful to do that (have to convert when moving text to and fro). User:Jnc 19:11, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC) ::On W32-systems Ctrl-Z does an undo in the edit window for IE and Mozillas. -- User:Tillwe 10:51, Aug 22, 2003 (UTC) ::I guess Noel is not using a very up-to-date machine. Every newer OS has a notebook-like program which is better then Epsilon, I believe. --User:Wshun 03:04, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC) :: Thanks for the tip on ^Z. Actually, I'm using a fairly up-to-date machine (a 1.3Ghz Celeron), but I have zero interest in any "notebook-like program". I've been using Emacs and Emacs clones since the late 70's, and there's no way I'm switching to a different editing command set. I stick with Epsilon, instead of going to Emacs, since when I first moved to PC's, Emacs wasn't available for PC's, and by now I have a very customized Epsilon environment (several K lines of EEL code) which I have no interest in re-writing in LISP for a different editor (and anyway I hate LISP). If it ain't broke, don't fix it, is my motto these days; I don't have the neurons to spare to learn new stuff gratuitously. Now, what I ought to do is write an Epsilon mode for Wikipedia pages.. :-) User:Jnc 07:42, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC) :: For anyone who's insane enough to want such a thing, you may find one [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tmp/wiki.e here]. It takes a region, internally Wikifies it, and copies the result to the clipboard, ready to paste into the edit window. Note: it doesn't handle lists or headers followed immediately by text properly (yet), just blocks of straight text. User:Jnc 00:57, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC) ::: So you solve the problem by customize your Epsilon again! Woo! :P -User:Wshun 01:13, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC) ::: Sure!!! Hey, it's really easy to customize Epsilon! (Darned if I can figure out why I didn't think of doing that sooner... :-) Take a look at that routine above - it's a page of simple C that I whipped up in less than an hour. (LISP is for AI showoffs! :-) Just for grins, I've now fixed it so it handles titles and list elements too (as long as there's no whitespace on the end or start of line, respectively) - that took precisely 2.5 extra lines of code! User:Jnc 18:43, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)
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