'''HIIII, HELLO Kchishol!!! IT'S A GREAT PLEASURE TO SEE YOU! User:BigCat''' Hello there, Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to Wikipedia:wikipedians. If you ever need editing help visit Wikipedia:How does one edit a page and experiment at Wikipedia:Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions or how to format them visit our Wikipedia:Manual of Style. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the wikipedia:Village pump. Cheers! --user:maveric149 Opps! Iv'e already greeted you. --mav ---- Welcome, Kchishol. May I call you Kc for short? I have a question for you about genocide in East Timor, which you compared to Cambodia. Would you please add some detail? Number of people killed, number of people in the country? This will enable the reader to compare percentages. Or you could even calculate these for the reader, and include them in the article. --User:Ed Poor I'm afraid I don't know the exact numbers at present. My main knowledge of it comes from the film, Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, where the focus is on the apparent media complicity with this atrocity. I thought it would be enough for me for now to enter the case and let those more knowledgable about it fill in the details. If you want, I can look it up. ---- Re Khan Noonien Singh: someone once told me I had my "NPOV meter turned up to eleven." I don't feel so alone now. Thanks for that. <g> - User:Hephaestos 03:39, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC) ----- You added the name Ken Taylor to the Medal of Honor page but there is no such person listed on the DOD website as having received that award. Who were you refering to? User:Rmhermen 17:24, Oct 16, 2003 (UTC) *Ken Taylor is a Canadian diplomat who sheltered a number of American Iranian Embassy personnel who escaped being captured by revolutionaries during the Iranian Revolution of 1979 by hiding him in the Canadian Embassey. He then cooperated with the CIA to smuggle them out posing as the mastermind behind the operation. Apparently, he was awarded the Medal of Honor as a reaction to that. ::I checked -what he received was a Congressional Gold Medal.[http://www.congressionalgoldmedal.com/KennethTaylor.htm] Only Americans and foreign "Unknown Soldiers" recieve the Medal of Honor. User:Rmhermen 14:27, Oct 25, 2003 (UTC) ---- Hey, K. I see you deleted from Pierre Trudeau my observations about double jeopardy and the presumption of guilt in libel cases as "blatantly right-wing" POV"> As a blatantly left-wing person I am puzzled. I'm unaware of any debate over whether double jeopardy or the presumption of guilt are restrictions on civil rights, or of any right-wing agitation against them, but I'm open to argument if you'd care to explain your reasons for thinking that way. User:Trontonian 22:52, 27 Oct 2003 (UTC) :I have restored the points, but in the second last paragraph, where their (unjustifiably) contentious nature is more apparent. As a socialist I believe in a mixed economy and individual civil rights. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms' glittering words have not removed the most serious impediments to Canadian civil rights -- as I said above, no one considers double jeopardy or the presumption of guilt in libel cases to promote individual Canadian civil rights. To point that out is fair comment. Many do believe the Charter has chiefly benefited corporations, so I included that observation -- now that's not right wing. :At any rate, these observations are now in a section of the article where it is clear that they may be interpreted differently by different people. I also attempted to balance the blatantly right-wing POV about the War Measures Act. In general, I think it's clear that Mr. Trudeau's reputation won't be settled for some time, and including criticisms of Mr. Trudeau is not necessarily POV. I'm sorry if my mention of the sad state of Canadian civil rights offended you, but it was not right-wing and it was not POV. Double jeopardy and the presumption of guilt survive unfettered by Mr. Trudeau's Charter. As do the notwithstanding clause and the Supreme Court decisions about the practice of a legal trade (prostitution) and mandatory retirement. The glowing statement about the CHarter in the last paragraph is clearly right-wing POV and needs to be balanced by some assessment of the actual success of the Charter. That is fair comment. User:Trontonian 14:58, 28 Oct 2003 (UTC) One thing we can probably agree on. That article really doesn't give much of a picture of Pierre Trudeau or his achievements. It didn't even mention the Foreign Investment Review Board. Nor did it mention the Just Society, an important them in Mr. Trudeau's first term. I've added something about those topics. And I found out that "right-wing spin about the War Measures Act" I mentioned was probably the most reasonable statement about it so I restored it. My left-wing interpretation was still right, of course. User:Trontonian 13:51, 29 Oct 2003 (UTC) ---- Hiya. According to news reports, Robert Stanfield died on Tuesday (i.e. not on the 17th). I didn't spot this myself till I added the entry to Recent deaths only to find that it was already there! It was added by Wik, which may explain why he has reverted a previous attempt to add it to the front page: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Current_events&diff=1987477&oldid=1987367 this is not Recent Deaths]. regards, User:Chocolateboy 05:31, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC) == Recent deaths v. Current events == I removed your listing of Julius Schwartz at Current events. It should be listed at Recent deaths instead.--User:JiangUser talk:Jiang 19:29, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC) ---- As you are known as the resident expert on comic books and cartoons, I invite you to contribute to new entries on Superman (1940s cartoons) and Doomsday (supervillain). :) --User:Modemac 18:38, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC) *I am flattered, but I don't know how I got to be known as this kind of expert and I don't how much more I can contribute to the above articles, but I'll see what I can do. ---- Hello! I don't know how to change the title of an article. You started one on Van Horne, the famous historical president of the CPR. The trouble is that it should be William Cornelius Van Horne instead of Cornelius Van Horne. I can see where this error started, on the CPR page. I was going to put in the correct birth date and add a few things, since I have studied Van Horne in the past, but I don't know if I should given the wrong title. Maybe the way to go is to delete the whole thing and start over again, but I am not sure if then the route would be to put it in the votes for deletion page. User:AlainV 09:26, 2004 Apr 23 (UTC) : I suggest using the Move Page function to move it to William Cornelius Van Horne. This should preserve the content and automagically create a redirect page. --User:Joe Sewell 15:47, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC) == miser == Hi, I saw your remark on Ebenezer Scrooge in the Miser-article. I see you were right, but I altered the definition a bit so he fits in (after all, he is the archetype of a miser) without the comment. Do you agree? User:Pastinakel 14:31, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC) == Jolly Roger == Nice addition - but I'm curious... if the pirates showing the red flag take the ship by force and "without mercy", who is going to be left to spread the word? :) -- User:Solipsist 16:16, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC) :I don't know, "without mercy" could include the use of torture and sexual assault of prisoners which they could leave alive for publicity. If you don't approve, edit it to your taste. ::No no, its nice - just my over-literal mind kicking in. -- User:Solipsist 17:58, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC) == Police dog == I see that you added the text about bodyguard dogs for detection dogs. Can you provide any references or pointers to more information? -- User:Dsurber 00:30, 08 Oct 2004 (UTC) :I'm afraid I would have to look for that book about working dogs again that I read from the library. == Adminship == Recently I did some analysis of contribution history for Wikipedia, the fruits of which are at Wikipedia:Another list of Wikipedians in order of arrival. As I reviewed the list, I noted that there are about a dozen longtime contributors who have not been made administrators. You are one of them. Accordingly, I would like to nominate you for WP:RFA, with your permission. If you would appreciate such a nomination, please let me know on my User talk:UninvitedCompany. If you do wish to decline, a note so saying would also be appreciated, though not necessary. Kindest regards, User:UninvitedCompany Co., User_talk:UninvitedCompany 20:42, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC) :You can read up at Wikipedia:Administrators. Let me know if you're interested. 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'''HIIII, HELLO Kchishol!!! IT'S A GREAT PLEASURE TO SEE YOU! User:BigCat''' Hello there, Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to Wikipedia:wikipedians. If you ever need editing help visit Wikipedia:How does one edit a page and experiment at Wikipedia:Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions or how to format them visit our Wikipedia:Manual of Style. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the wikipedia:Village pump. Cheers! --user:maveric149 Opps! Iv'e already greeted you. --mav ---- Welcome, Kchishol. May I call you Kc for short? I have a question for you about genocide in East Timor, which you compared to Cambodia. Would you please add some detail? Number of people killed, number of people in the country? This will enable the reader to compare percentages. Or you could even calculate these for the reader, and include them in the article. --User:Ed Poor I'm afraid I don't know the exact numbers at present. My main knowledge of it comes from the film, Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, where the focus is on the apparent media complicity with this atrocity. I thought it would be enough for me for now to enter the case and let those more knowledgable about it fill in the details. If you want, I can look it up. ---- Re Khan Noonien Singh: someone once told me I had my "NPOV meter turned up to eleven." I don't feel so alone now. Thanks for that. <g> - User:Hephaestos 03:39, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC) ----- You added the name Ken Taylor to the Medal of Honor page but there is no such person listed on the DOD website as having received that award. Who were you refering to? User:Rmhermen 17:24, Oct 16, 2003 (UTC) *Ken Taylor is a Canadian diplomat who sheltered a number of American Iranian Embassy personnel who escaped being captured by revolutionaries during the Iranian Revolution of 1979 by hiding him in the Canadian Embassey. He then cooperated with the CIA to smuggle them out posing as the mastermind behind the operation. Apparently, he was awarded the Medal of Honor as a reaction to that. ::I checked -what he received was a Congressional Gold Medal.[http://www.congressionalgoldmedal.com/KennethTaylor.htm] Only Americans and foreign "Unknown Soldiers" recieve the Medal of Honor. User:Rmhermen 14:27, Oct 25, 2003 (UTC) ---- Hey, K. I see you deleted from Pierre Trudeau my observations about double jeopardy and the presumption of guilt in libel cases as "blatantly right-wing" POV"> As a blatantly left-wing person I am puzzled. I'm unaware of any debate over whether double jeopardy or the presumption of guilt are restrictions on civil rights, or of any right-wing agitation against them, but I'm open to argument if you'd care to explain your reasons for thinking that way. User:Trontonian 22:52, 27 Oct 2003 (UTC) :I have restored the points, but in the second last paragraph, where their (unjustifiably) contentious nature is more apparent. As a socialist I believe in a mixed economy and individual civil rights. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms' glittering words have not removed the most serious impediments to Canadian civil rights -- as I said above, no one considers double jeopardy or the presumption of guilt in libel cases to promote individual Canadian civil rights. To point that out is fair comment. Many do believe the Charter has chiefly benefited corporations, so I included that observation -- now that's not right wing. :At any rate, these observations are now in a section of the article where it is clear that they may be interpreted differently by different people. I also attempted to balance the blatantly right-wing POV about the War Measures Act. In general, I think it's clear that Mr. Trudeau's reputation won't be settled for some time, and including criticisms of Mr. Trudeau is not necessarily POV. I'm sorry if my mention of the sad state of Canadian civil rights offended you, but it was not right-wing and it was not POV. Double jeopardy and the presumption of guilt survive unfettered by Mr. Trudeau's Charter. As do the notwithstanding clause and the Supreme Court decisions about the practice of a legal trade (prostitution) and mandatory retirement. The glowing statement about the CHarter in the last paragraph is clearly right-wing POV and needs to be balanced by some assessment of the actual success of the Charter. That is fair comment. User:Trontonian 14:58, 28 Oct 2003 (UTC) One thing we can probably agree on. That article really doesn't give much of a picture of Pierre Trudeau or his achievements. It didn't even mention the Foreign Investment Review Board. Nor did it mention the Just Society, an important them in Mr. Trudeau's first term. I've added something about those topics. And I found out that "right-wing spin about the War Measures Act" I mentioned was probably the most reasonable statement about it so I restored it. My left-wing interpretation was still right, of course. User:Trontonian 13:51, 29 Oct 2003 (UTC) ---- Hiya. According to news reports, Robert Stanfield died on Tuesday (i.e. not on the 17th). I didn't spot this myself till I added the entry to Recent deaths only to find that it was already there! It was added by Wik, which may explain why he has reverted a previous attempt to add it to the front page: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Current_events&diff=1987477&oldid=1987367 this is not Recent Deaths]. regards, User:Chocolateboy 05:31, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC) == Recent deaths v. Current events == I removed your listing of Julius Schwartz at Current events. It should be listed at Recent deaths instead.--User:JiangUser talk:Jiang 19:29, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC) ---- As you are known as the resident expert on comic books and cartoons, I invite you to contribute to new entries on Superman (1940s cartoons) and Doomsday (supervillain). :) --User:Modemac 18:38, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC) *I am flattered, but I don't know how I got to be known as this kind of expert and I don't how much more I can contribute to the above articles, but I'll see what I can do. ---- Hello! I don't know how to change the title of an article. You started one on Van Horne, the famous historical president of the CPR. The trouble is that it should be William Cornelius Van Horne instead of Cornelius Van Horne. I can see where this error started, on the CPR page. I was going to put in the correct birth date and add a few things, since I have studied Van Horne in the past, but I don't know if I should given the wrong title. Maybe the way to go is to delete the whole thing and start over again, but I am not sure if then the route would be to put it in the votes for deletion page. User:AlainV 09:26, 2004 Apr 23 (UTC) : I suggest using the Move Page function to move it to William Cornelius Van Horne. This should preserve the content and automagically create a redirect page. --User:Joe Sewell 15:47, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC) == miser == Hi, I saw your remark on Ebenezer Scrooge in the Miser-article. I see you were right, but I altered the definition a bit so he fits in (after all, he is the archetype of a miser) without the comment. Do you agree? User:Pastinakel 14:31, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC) == Jolly Roger == Nice addition - but I'm curious... if the pirates showing the red flag take the ship by force and "without mercy", who is going to be left to spread the word? :) -- User:Solipsist 16:16, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC) :I don't know, "without mercy" could include the use of torture and sexual assault of prisoners which they could leave alive for publicity. If you don't approve, edit it to your taste. ::No no, its nice - just my over-literal mind kicking in. -- User:Solipsist 17:58, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC) == Police dog == I see that you added the text about bodyguard dogs for detection dogs. Can you provide any references or pointers to more information? -- User:Dsurber 00:30, 08 Oct 2004 (UTC) :I'm afraid I would have to look for that book about working dogs again that I read from the library. == Adminship == Recently I did some analysis of contribution history for Wikipedia, the fruits of which are at Wikipedia:Another list of Wikipedians in order of arrival. As I reviewed the list, I noted that there are about a dozen longtime contributors who have not been made administrators. You are one of them. Accordingly, I would like to nominate you for WP:RFA, with your permission. If you would appreciate such a nomination, please let me know on my User talk:UninvitedCompany. If you do wish to decline, a note so saying would also be appreciated, though not necessary. Kindest regards, User:UninvitedCompany Co., User_talk:UninvitedCompany 20:42, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC) :You can read up at Wikipedia:Administrators. Let me know if you're interested. 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Since you are among the Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at ''minimum'' those on the geographic articles. So far over 90% of people who have responded have done this. :Nutshell: Wikipedia articles can be shared with any other GFDL project but open/free projects using the incompatible Creative Commons Licenses (e.g. WikiTravel) can't use our stuff and we can't use theirs. It is important to us that other free projects can use our stuff. So we use their licenses too. To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the
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